Well I guess you all saw the drama of the hacking situation over at the forums and read Dragoneers confession of how the admin staff "accidentally" added the hacked account to be admin status instead of banned seems to me a sign of weakness. I also laugh that Neer hasn't swapped the forum software to MyBB instead of that VBulletin software. MyBB is noted to be 10x more secure then any other known forum software to date that is considered free. sigh..........well i'm just gonna shut up. Now if only Neer would be kind enough to share that IP from the account that claimed to be the cracker.